Friday, September 14, 2007

Well. That seems logical enough.

"Science will never prove or disprove God... because if that happens, then Hebrews won't be true, [because] the only way to please God is by faith."

- Jim Daly

"And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him."

Hebrews 11:6 NIV (emphasis mine)

6 comments:

  1. Total tangent: Is all of the stuff with the word "pod" after it (in your menu) audio?

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  2. Not that I think science will ever prove God's existence, I just don't think it's because of Hebrews. I don't think God is intentionally thwarting anyone's attempts to "prove" his existence. But I doubt that it's in science's interest to prove it, either, which may be why they're overly keen to hypothesize about other "explanations".*kicks soapbox back under the desk*

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  3. I would say that the Paul formerly known as Saul had proof that God exists, but I would never say he didn't have faith.Many people like to assume that faith requires lack of proof, but I disagree. For instance, I consider the existence of the universe to be proof that God exists, because I do not have the faith necessary to believe that all of this could just have randomly occurred out of absolute nothingness. To me, that is a giant leap of faith that begs for proof. ':P

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  4. That's pretty right. The problem with science is that since most things are theories, they can be alternatively explained as "acts of god."The problem with religion is that since you have to believe and be gullible, that scientific theory is often times easier to swallow.

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  5. That last paragraph should read, "Faith requires you tro trust God with your fate..."(I had originally written it in the abstract person, but it sounded too awkward, so I changed it to the second person.)

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  6. That's a nice "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babel_Fish#Existence_of_God" rel="nofollow">puff of logic" he's got there.Hebrews states that there are two prerequisites to pleasing God, and that fulfilling the two prerequisites constitutes faith:1) Believe that He exists2) Believe that He rewards those who earnestly seek Him.If God were undeniably proven to exist, both prerequisites would still exist, and still need to be fulfilled. The only change in situation would be that the first (which can be thought of as merely a prerequisite to the second) would be more easily achieved.It's worth pointing out that the Bible records numerous individuals and groups of people to whom God directly revealed Himself. One could argue that God only did so to those who already had faith, but that was not the case, and in fact, some to whom He revealed Himself never had faith.It's difficult, for example, to argue that Balaam's knowledge of God disproves Hebrews: Balaam knew that God exists, yet he did not choose to please God. The devils mentioned in James 2:19 are in the same boat, and the recipients of the letter that James writes are in danger of being there too.Faith requires you to trust God with one's fate: to do things His way, not your way, and expect that God is (1) able, and (2) willing to save you. In short, you must believe that God is who He is, and that He loves you.

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